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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 27 @ 7:14 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 1/27/12
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 27 @ 7:23 AM ET


Typical of the lazy media to make the Flyers issues all about goaltending.

In the same way the media has a template for everything else they report on the same is true of sports media.

Sad but true.

Marinus1103
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Amsterdam
Joined: 06.28.2009

Jan 27 @ 7:54 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)

eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jan 27 @ 7:55 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103


I think Couturier is close to or as untouchable as Giroux at the moment.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 7:56 AM ET
Typical of the lazy media to make the Flyers issues all about goaltending.

In the same way the media has a template for everything else they report on the same is true of sports media.

Sad but true.

- ggunky



no research is done...it's all pot luck...
it some ways they were able to get away with it a few years ago but more and more people are critical (and they should be) of them because of the internet.

I liked when Carchidi tweeted that Sutter was drafted. It was Suter...
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jan 27 @ 7:56 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 1/27/12
- bmeltzer


Clean, simple, and sound analysis of the Flyers goaltending through the first "half". Nicely done.

As an aside, do they not do the "Rookie Game" at the ASG anymore?
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 27 @ 7:57 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103



No.

Cooter is untouchable. (I hope Holmer thinks this way)

Plus the salaries wouldn't match up.


Edit: LEIGHT

Marinus1103
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Amsterdam
Joined: 06.28.2009

Jan 27 @ 7:57 AM ET
I think Couturier is close to or as untouchable as Giroux at the moment.
- eayost


Yes.. Phaneuf and Kulemin would be great fits in Philadelphia though..
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 27 @ 7:59 AM ET
no research is done...it's all pot luck...
it some ways they were able to get away with it a few years ago but more and more people are critical (and they should be) of them because of the internet.

I liked when Carchidi tweeted that Sutter was drafted. It was Suter...

- phi1671



It is nice to have the ability to find sites, like HockeyBuzz, with Blobbers, like Bill, that can give you more then the standard template of babble about the team you follow.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:03 AM ET
Typical of the lazy media to make the Flyers issues all about goaltending.

In the same way the media has a template for everything else they report on the same is true of sports media.

Sad but true.

- ggunky


It is sad. Why learn about the rest of the game when you have an easy story in the goaltending whenever you need it?

It's all about goals for and goals against, not lax play by the forwards in their own zone, or any of the other nuance plays that happen up and down the ice.

We're very lucky that Bill actually knows the game.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jan 27 @ 8:08 AM ET
Not that it really matters because its the All Star Game, but I found it interesting that Kimmo was chosen ahead of both Weber and Suter last night.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:15 AM ET
Not that it really matters because its the All Star Game, but I found it interesting that Kimmo was chosen ahead of both Weber and Suter last night.
- Duran76


Seems to have been in the works for a while...

@euroflyers: Timonen knew he was going to get picked early in ASG draft. Chara told him during last PHI vs BOS game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103


Not a prayer. Never going to happen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:25 AM ET
Not that it really matters because its the All Star Game, but I found it interesting that Kimmo was chosen ahead of both Weber and Suter last night.
- Duran76


The connection of Lupul and Timonen having been teammates.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:26 AM ET
It is nice to have the ability to find sites, like HockeyBuzz, with Blobbers, like Bill, that can give you more then the standard template of babble about the team you follow.
- ggunky



i agree...the writing style is not forced when we read Bills Blobs...and it's not TMZ driven.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jan 27 @ 8:26 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103


Not sure what you sprinkled on your wheaties but that isn't going to happen.
Wishful thinking maybe. I would advocate firing PH if that were to happen.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 27 @ 8:30 AM ET
Seems to have been in the works for a while...

@euroflyers: Timonen knew he was going to get picked early in ASG draft. Chara told him during last PHI vs BOS game.

- tangent_man


Much of the draft was contrived, but that was to be expected at an ASG. The captains just so happened to end up with all their current teammates, all of their participating countrymen and a couple friends from other teams that they or their assistant captains wanted to take on their side.

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 27 @ 8:31 AM ET
bill,
considering that even in his good performances, most have included a soft goal, I would agree w/ the assessment that bryz has provided sub par goaltending overall.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
Much of the draft was contrived, but that was to be expected at an ASG. The captains just so happened to end up with all their current teammates, all of their participating countrymen and a couple friends from other teams that they or their assistant captains wanted to take on their side.
- bmeltzer



last year it seemed like a true draft...this year it appears they were working off a script. Either way...other then the Philly Fans booing all the time, it was a decent show.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
Yes.. Phaneuf and Kulemin would be great fits in Philadelphia though..
- Marinus1103




No, thank you.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103


I don't know...guess we could give you Giroux and JvR, too.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
I think Couturier is close to or as untouchable as Giroux at the moment.
- eayost


Agreed. no WAY would I give up coots at this stage
Ahess86
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.18.2011

Jan 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
What about Toronto and Philadelphia making a trade, having B. Schenn and Couturier going to Toronto, and Phaneuf + going back the other way..? (Phaneuf + Kulemin?)
- Marinus1103


Nice try, keep dreaming. These are the two key pieces that came to Philly w/ the departure of Richards and Carter. That said with no disrespect to Voracek or Simmons.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 27 @ 8:53 AM ET
Nice try, keep dreaming. These are the two key pieces that came to Philly w/ the departure of Richards and Carter. That said with no disrespect to Voracek or Simmons.
- Ahess86


It's also cap suicide. Two guys on EL deals for two guys at a combined $8.75mm, one of whom is a RFA and likely to get a raise next year.

That doesn't even get into the whole trading gold for tarnished brass angle.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
hey hey it's Frie DAY
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